Considering that we read about security breaches in The Cloud pretty much every week due to people/corps misconfiguring security credentials, it’s a good thing not to trust with serious info.
Word. I’m about to chuck my Microsoft Surface into a landfill to thwart its every effort to “update” (ie FORCE) me to store my information in their cloud system.
My old Dell with Microsoft 7 and a perfectly good 1 TB hard drive.
There is no cloud, there are only computers. FTFY.
It’s a marketing term, nothing more. We’ve had servers available across the internet for, I dunno, as long as we’ve had the internet? It’s just some time in the last decade some twit started calling it the ever freakin’ mighty Cloud and people started going OOOOH! Most everyone failed to notice that the man behind the curtain is the same man behind the curtain that’s been standing there for over 30 years.
If you own the server, you have a depreciable asset and you know where your data resides and can control access to it at a theoretical level. In the cloud, no one can hear you scream when you realize that your IT people or your cloud provider’s IT people made a mistake or had little clue in the first place how the thing worked in the first place and all your data is hung out to dry for the universe to see.
Well, sure. I’ve said so often enough myself (you should here me howl about it on OSDev sometime…). But reality-blindness is sort of s real thing, sometimes, too.
I meant what I said. The cloud is really someone else’s servers. And who do you think that someone else is?
A cloud has long been used to represent the internet, because that is not under your control and you don’t really care how things are connected between A and B.
Some techie must have explained the concept of off-site backups by explaining that the data is somewhere “in that cloud”. And as usual that has become a marketing term, and created active demand for people to not know where their data is or who has it and what else is done to it.
And there are many bots who riffle through someone else’s data. They used to sniff ethernet packets, but nowadays that is old school.
But is the reality-blind population even able to read a document about an evil conspiracy to make them all blind to monsters and intelligent robots without it triggering their reality blindness? (I have some trouble believing the way reality blindness works myself, and I haven’t even been brainwashed! 🙂 [I think])
In an ongoing crisis the first priority is to end the crisis. You pick up incriminating evidence along the way for after it’s been fixed and you have time for recriminations.
I think at this stage any hard information they can get at all is a good thing. They’re largely working on a theory that it’s a version of the Cure, but I doubt they have much on that either.
Effectively this could be the Death Star Plans of the piece.
Hard information, maybe. But given A-Sig’s reach, it wouldn’t surprise me that they have more than a few judges in their collective pocket, meaning taking them to court is right out. If there’s detailed files on what their long term plans are (maybe the antiCure as well), that might be worth the trouble.
Reality blindness notwithstanding, since SH and A-Sig are both effectively shadow gov operations, taking anyone to court is already out. And since everyone IS reality blind, what would the courts even see? The only option when it comes to shadow gov is overthrowing the opposition. At least with the data Grandma Swamp collected, SH might have some idea HOW to go about it.
Cypress, Cypress,
You’ve been salvaging and dying.
Possess, possess, possess,
The Anasigma data nullifying.
You know you’ve got to get away,
To live and love another day, eh, eh…
Wilkin, Wilkin,
You don’t need to agitate.
You see, Cypress has the answer.
The flash drive keeps it up to date.
You know you’ve got to find a way
To live and love another day, oh oh oh…
Now, stick your lines and stick your whines.
Help refugees from reality.
And download free, so they can see,
Oh, what’s going on!
What’s going on!
Yeah, what’s going on!
Ah, what’s going on!
—from “What’s Going On,” Alfred W. Cleveland / Marvin P. Gaye / Renaldo Benson.
I’m typing this message while sitting three feet away from my collection of CDs and tapes, six feet away from my DVDs, and eight feet away from my repurposed-tree books. Madame Cypress, I think you and I would get along just fine.
I’m just a little frustrated that vinyl made a big comeback. But, every twenty years or so, the industry changes the way in which it distributes its product. Ever seen a wax cylinder played? I did, once, and only once.
Vinyl was never gone. Grind-crust-punk-industrial-techno projects used it this whole time making split LPs and split EPs. But now they can’t do it anymore because big machines hyped it back and the few fabrics can’t do at the same time (and for the same price) the small and the big pressed numbers. So some have moved to tapes again, but that’ really not the same quality. Wax may come back… (in fact it isn’t fone)… To think I could record and distribute on sloppies just a while ago…
I use the cloud but I don’t fully trust it.
I prefer physical media because I don’t trust it at all.
The Cloud makes everything accessible to whomever can crack the encryption (and the company storing it).
And, yes, I have a stand-alone modemless computer to go along with my laptop.
There’s an xkcd cartoon with a list of “security breaches”, one of which is “It turns out the Cloud is just other people’s computers”.
Considering that we read about security breaches in The Cloud pretty much every week due to people/corps misconfiguring security credentials, it’s a good thing not to trust with serious info.
Word. I’m about to chuck my Microsoft Surface into a landfill to thwart its every effort to “update” (ie FORCE) me to store my information in their cloud system.
My old Dell with Microsoft 7 and a perfectly good 1 TB hard drive.
I am beginning to think there may be a market for super-simple stand alone systems with monster storage. Preferably EMP hardened.
Well, no one with any common sense* would save their top-secret files to the Cloud, it’s a security breach waiting to happen.
*Of course, that probably means lots of people do that.
There is no cloud. There is only my computers.
What does the military want with proof of someone else’s brainwashing project?
The army may be working for Asig (possibly without really knowing where their orders are coming from), and the point is to destroy the evidence.
There is no cloud, there are only computers. FTFY.
It’s a marketing term, nothing more. We’ve had servers available across the internet for, I dunno, as long as we’ve had the internet? It’s just some time in the last decade some twit started calling it the ever freakin’ mighty Cloud and people started going OOOOH! Most everyone failed to notice that the man behind the curtain is the same man behind the curtain that’s been standing there for over 30 years.
If you own the server, you have a depreciable asset and you know where your data resides and can control access to it at a theoretical level. In the cloud, no one can hear you scream when you realize that your IT people or your cloud provider’s IT people made a mistake or had little clue in the first place how the thing worked in the first place and all your data is hung out to dry for the universe to see.
Well, sure. I’ve said so often enough myself (you should here me howl about it on OSDev sometime…). But reality-blindness is sort of s real thing, sometimes, too.
I meant what I said. The cloud is really someone else’s servers. And who do you think that someone else is?
A cloud has long been used to represent the internet, because that is not under your control and you don’t really care how things are connected between A and B.
Some techie must have explained the concept of off-site backups by explaining that the data is somewhere “in that cloud”. And as usual that has become a marketing term, and created active demand for people to not know where their data is or who has it and what else is done to it.
And there are many bots who riffle through someone else’s data. They used to sniff ethernet packets, but nowadays that is old school.
But is the reality-blind population even able to read a document about an evil conspiracy to make them all blind to monsters and intelligent robots without it triggering their reality blindness? (I have some trouble believing the way reality blindness works myself, and I haven’t even been brainwashed! 🙂 [I think])
Fnord.
In an ongoing crisis the first priority is to end the crisis. You pick up incriminating evidence along the way for after it’s been fixed and you have time for recriminations.
I think at this stage any hard information they can get at all is a good thing. They’re largely working on a theory that it’s a version of the Cure, but I doubt they have much on that either.
Effectively this could be the Death Star Plans of the piece.
Hard information, maybe. But given A-Sig’s reach, it wouldn’t surprise me that they have more than a few judges in their collective pocket, meaning taking them to court is right out. If there’s detailed files on what their long term plans are (maybe the antiCure as well), that might be worth the trouble.
Reality blindness notwithstanding, since SH and A-Sig are both effectively shadow gov operations, taking anyone to court is already out. And since everyone IS reality blind, what would the courts even see? The only option when it comes to shadow gov is overthrowing the opposition. At least with the data Grandma Swamp collected, SH might have some idea HOW to go about it.
Cypress, Cypress,
You’ve been salvaging and dying.
Possess, possess, possess,
The Anasigma data nullifying.
You know you’ve got to get away,
To live and love another day, eh, eh…
Wilkin, Wilkin,
You don’t need to agitate.
You see, Cypress has the answer.
The flash drive keeps it up to date.
You know you’ve got to find a way
To live and love another day, oh oh oh…
Now, stick your lines and stick your whines.
Help refugees from reality.
And download free, so they can see,
Oh, what’s going on!
What’s going on!
Yeah, what’s going on!
Ah, what’s going on!
—from “What’s Going On,” Alfred W. Cleveland / Marvin P. Gaye / Renaldo Benson.
I’m typing this message while sitting three feet away from my collection of CDs and tapes, six feet away from my DVDs, and eight feet away from my repurposed-tree books. Madame Cypress, I think you and I would get along just fine.
I’m just a little frustrated that vinyl made a big comeback. But, every twenty years or so, the industry changes the way in which it distributes its product. Ever seen a wax cylinder played? I did, once, and only once.
Vinyl was never gone. Grind-crust-punk-industrial-techno projects used it this whole time making split LPs and split EPs. But now they can’t do it anymore because big machines hyped it back and the few fabrics can’t do at the same time (and for the same price) the small and the big pressed numbers. So some have moved to tapes again, but that’ really not the same quality. Wax may come back… (in fact it isn’t fone)… To think I could record and distribute on sloppies just a while ago…
Just out of curiosity, how can Tip tell what’s on the thumb drive just by looking? Wish I could do that.
The tree is saying that!
Oh. Duh.
I hope I can sound at least half as whimsical and magical about hard data storage when I’m over 100 years old.