At this point my guess is that Aimee is one of two things:
1.) from a parallel universe (does not exist in this one), or
2.) is a fragment of Nick’s mind, possibly initiated from the time he was driving Violet (does not exist as a physical entity).
Mind you, I’m not ruling out other forms of shenanigans, but those were the first options that came to mind.
That said, if that is the case then expect her to be of Whimsy origin rather than from the time he was driving Violet. And this would explain why we never heard of her before now. >_>
*Now* I remember what this reminds me of! “The Analogues” by Damon Knight. If that’s the case then yeah, she’s not real. She’s a deliberately induced hallucination that Nick is carrying around in his head. @_@
Still not impossible for her to be Lovelace – a lot of people would call an A.I. “not real”, even after she’s achieved sentience/self-awareness and deserves to be promoted to personhood. But I’m less sure than yesterday.
Keep in mind the person saying she doesn’t exist is a sentient corporation. Pretty much the only way I can square that with anything is because she means that the “Aimee” identity is fictional and thus “doesn’t exist” while the person behind it does, whatever they might be.
Yeah, I feel like a sentient corporation doesn’t really have any grounds to say an AI doesn’t exist. Now, that said, if it IS Lovelace, then Amiee is a fake identity and thus Amiee doesn’t exist, but that’s kind of splitting hairs in a way.
Who’s to say it’s a Hard AI rather than a Soft AI? What if he’s effectively just talking to a chat bot and reading more into it than is actually there?
Heck, take it a step further – what if it’s not even software, but rather an implanted hallucination or delusion? What if he’s not actually talking to a person OR a chatbot, he’s just being made to THINK he is by mucking about in his head and toying with his neurons?
What if the “Virtual Reality” he’s testing is itself a delusion? How would he know any different? He’s literally a brain in a jar that is entirely reliant on being fed external information from other sources. Hijack that information feed and for all intents and purposes you hijack his reality.
How is that different to everybody else? Your brain is entirely reliant on being fed external information from other sources. Hijacking that information feed would almost certainly require direct access to the hardware, just like with anybody else; when designing a military war machine, it being hackable is a really bad thing. Nick’s network connections are almost certainly completely isolated from his primary sensor feeds.
Uh… you do remember that Nick has a backdoor that relies on a spoken command, right? It was revealed back in Railway Children. That’s against that complete isolation from primary senses you’re arguing for.
Customer-Service Bot exclusively programmed to fullfill the customers needs. Worked to effectively and provided Nick with a girlfriend when it calculated that he was lonely.
Called it. Apparently, Whimsy subcontracts to outside A.I.s. Although, I agree that saying “she doesn’t exist” would be kinda harsh under the circumstances.
I think the odds of her being our favorite, sentient, mad-scientist-derived supercomputer are really high. If so though, the Whimsey fairy would be acting pretty species-ist (another name for that?), considering what she is. We’ll see what Mr. Wells and Ms. Garrity are thinking. And hopefully soon.
I don’t understand the opposition to the notion that Lovelace still exists. It’s SOP to backup vital information off-site in the event of catastrophe, something Lovelace would have done as an automatic routine long before she became sapient. Even if the backup were restored by way of a hacker’s cell phone the cache would exist as a reference until Lovelace found a more suitable host machine. In all likelihood that would be, or at least start as, the server and the net the hacker used in the first place.
She was backed up. Last I saw, Lovelace was living in Madblood’s mother’s house, but plotting to get legally emancipated from Madblood. (Mel was her lawyer.) One would assume she succeeded…why would one assume she no longer exists at this moment?
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I’ve got speed
I’ve got everything I need
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I can fly
I’m a supersonic guy
I don’t need pleasure
I don’t feel pain
If you were to knock me down I’d just get up again
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I’m makin’ out
I’m all about
I wake up every morning with a smile upon my face
My natural exuberance spills out all over the place
I’m the urban spaceman, I’m intelligent and clean
Know what I mean?
I’m the urban spaceman, as a lover second to none
It’s a lot of fun
I never let my friends down
I’ve never made a boob
I’m a glossy magazine, an advert in the tube
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; here comes the twist–
I don’t exist
Hm! So the rabbit holes is getting deeper? o_O
Why do I suspect the entrance of another character from Narbonic?
At this point my guess is that Aimee is one of two things:
1.) from a parallel universe (does not exist in this one), or
2.) is a fragment of Nick’s mind, possibly initiated from the time he was driving Violet (does not exist as a physical entity).
Mind you, I’m not ruling out other forms of shenanigans, but those were the first options that came to mind.
Maybe she’s his Wish for a girl gamer who likes him.
2 sounds correct. Schlock Mercenary had another one like that…
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2017-01-19
That said, if that is the case then expect her to be of Whimsy origin rather than from the time he was driving Violet. And this would explain why we never heard of her before now. >_>
*Now* I remember what this reminds me of! “The Analogues” by Damon Knight. If that’s the case then yeah, she’s not real. She’s a deliberately induced hallucination that Nick is carrying around in his head. @_@
Like the wife and family of the dump truck driver in Ghost in the Shell?
Huh. I was figuring she’s either
1) Lovelace
or 2) an actor playing a role, like in MGS2.
Still not impossible for her to be Lovelace – a lot of people would call an A.I. “not real”, even after she’s achieved sentience/self-awareness and deserves to be promoted to personhood. But I’m less sure than yesterday.
Keep in mind the person saying she doesn’t exist is a sentient corporation. Pretty much the only way I can square that with anything is because she means that the “Aimee” identity is fictional and thus “doesn’t exist” while the person behind it does, whatever they might be.
She’s software – Artificially Intelligent Memetically Enhanced Entity?
I think that in this universe, saying an artificial intelligence doesn’t exist would be extremely rude.
Not sure what it’ll actually turn out to be, though.
She said she doesn’t “exactly” exist. That’s not to say she actually doesn’t exist either.
Yeah, I feel like a sentient corporation doesn’t really have any grounds to say an AI doesn’t exist. Now, that said, if it IS Lovelace, then Amiee is a fake identity and thus Amiee doesn’t exist, but that’s kind of splitting hairs in a way.
Who’s to say it’s a Hard AI rather than a Soft AI? What if he’s effectively just talking to a chat bot and reading more into it than is actually there?
Heck, take it a step further – what if it’s not even software, but rather an implanted hallucination or delusion? What if he’s not actually talking to a person OR a chatbot, he’s just being made to THINK he is by mucking about in his head and toying with his neurons?
What if the “Virtual Reality” he’s testing is itself a delusion? How would he know any different? He’s literally a brain in a jar that is entirely reliant on being fed external information from other sources. Hijack that information feed and for all intents and purposes you hijack his reality.
How is that different to everybody else? Your brain is entirely reliant on being fed external information from other sources. Hijacking that information feed would almost certainly require direct access to the hardware, just like with anybody else; when designing a military war machine, it being hackable is a really bad thing. Nick’s network connections are almost certainly completely isolated from his primary sensor feeds.
Uh… you do remember that Nick has a backdoor that relies on a spoken command, right? It was revealed back in Railway Children. That’s against that complete isolation from primary senses you’re arguing for.
Maybe she’s a subroutine of Whimsycorp? He’s just been talking to the equivalent of a white corpuscle or something?
I think you’re right. It could be that Whimsy generates splinter personilties tailor-made to keep its employees contented.
i still think she’s a cypress shoot
Customer-Service Bot exclusively programmed to fullfill the customers needs. Worked to effectively and provided Nick with a girlfriend when it calculated that he was lonely.
Aimee
AI Me
people who reckoned she was the swear filter itself may have been right!
Trapper John: Isn’t she wasting her prayers on somebody who doesn’t exist?
Hawkeye: Who doesn’t exist?
Trapper John: This, uh, Tuttle you made up.
Hawkeye: Who says I made him up?
Trapper John: Don’t con me. He’s a figment of your diseased imagination.
Hawkeye: And what makes you think you’re not?
Proof Phoebe, who loves unicorns exists: http://www.gocomics.com/phoebe-and-her-unicorn
Well, I read it, but I like “Ozy and Millie” better.
She’s not Canadian, she’s not a model (not yet, at least) and she’s probably not into unicorns in the way Nick means.
Called it. Apparently, Whimsy subcontracts to outside A.I.s. Although, I agree that saying “she doesn’t exist” would be kinda harsh under the circumstances.
I think the odds of her being our favorite, sentient, mad-scientist-derived supercomputer are really high. If so though, the Whimsey fairy would be acting pretty species-ist (another name for that?), considering what she is. We’ll see what Mr. Wells and Ms. Garrity are thinking. And hopefully soon.
I don’t understand the opposition to the notion that Lovelace still exists. It’s SOP to backup vital information off-site in the event of catastrophe, something Lovelace would have done as an automatic routine long before she became sapient. Even if the backup were restored by way of a hacker’s cell phone the cache would exist as a reference until Lovelace found a more suitable host machine. In all likelihood that would be, or at least start as, the server and the net the hacker used in the first place.
She was backed up. Last I saw, Lovelace was living in Madblood’s mother’s house, but plotting to get legally emancipated from Madblood. (Mel was her lawyer.) One would assume she succeeded…why would one assume she no longer exists at this moment?
Actually, the last Dave in Slumberland shows the outcome.
Whimsy, are you trying to seduce Nick under the guise of your Ethics committee or something? Or is the issue that she doesn’t exist anymore?
Also:
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I’ve got speed
I’ve got everything I need
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I can fly
I’m a supersonic guy
I don’t need pleasure
I don’t feel pain
If you were to knock me down I’d just get up again
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; I’m makin’ out
I’m all about
I wake up every morning with a smile upon my face
My natural exuberance spills out all over the place
I’m the urban spaceman, I’m intelligent and clean
Know what I mean?
I’m the urban spaceman, as a lover second to none
It’s a lot of fun
I never let my friends down
I’ve never made a boob
I’m a glossy magazine, an advert in the tube
I’m the urban spaceman, baby; here comes the twist–
I don’t exist