I think that imagining poor Imogene on the cure is horrific. Certainly, she may be trapped in the 50s, but that’s because she /really did travel forward from there./ If Anasigma uses the cure on her, then… I don’t even want to imagine what would happen.
She’d probably either go crazy from the stress/shock of temporal displacement, or her reality blindness would make her think it was still the 1950s. Either way wouldn’t be pretty.
Or all the “future” that her madness has been actively denying would flood in and she would update to modern parlance.
At the risk of offense; when I think of reality blind people who deny things their brains can’t handle, I think of repressive religious folk from cultural throw-back towns that like to PRETEND they live in an idealized 1950s.
I don’t think we necessarily know she’d become normal /for 1950/, it might just make her assimilate into the surrounding culture and not question the status quo. Clone!Dave wasn’t really bothered by missing several years of his life, as I recall he just shrugged and said something about time flying before you know it.
It was noted in the Narbonic Commentary that Clone!Dave was talking about American Idol even though his memories were cut off before that show even aired – The Cure is a scary thing.
Imogene on the Cure would probably look like Dave’ after he was told the truth. She’d probably convince herself that she just knows a lot about the ’50s and doesn’t pay much attention to pop culture, and even that part’s negotiable.
Donahue *is* married to Suzanne Pleshette in 1964. Use of the present tense is called for when describing transient conditions such as utterly unacceptable historical facts.
Still a dangerous thing to do. There is Mad, and there Mad. Not all mad is created equal. Especially since her day-to-day Mad seems mostly harmless. (except for those poor squirrels….)
Specifically (or generally) I’m thinking of the various tropes where beating the hero or heroine down completely then threatening their friends/lovers/family/etc. makes them level up all Ichigo Kurasaki (Bleach)or Super Sayian (Dragonball) style.
OR for that matter – Obi Wan style – killing him makes him more powerful….
Come to think of it, aren’t a lot of the people we’ve met in the Adventures of Skin Horse also dead? Some of ’em are pretty lively, too. So there’s still hope for Imogene and Troy…
I think the challenge is reconciling “I was a teen in the 1950s” with “I’m not seventy-plus years old in 2014.” She’d be sane, but her condition would be inexplicable, and would require a new delusion to cover the cracks in her world view.
(I just learned that she’s actually from the 1950s, and her mad scientist mother accidentally threw her forwards in time. Little details that make a big difference.)
Easy. She was in a coma from the lab accident, the coma kept her from aging normally, new meds were discovered to bring her out of it. The inconvenient memories are just dreams she had. Legally it may be tricky; as a chronological adult she’ll need the paperwork and a cover document to explain that she’s had cosmetic surgery so she doesn’t look as old as her driver’s license says she is.
Cover the cracks? Convoluted and complex background stories? You are all overthinking this. Reality blindness works by making you ignore inconvenient thruths. Either she’ll ignore all this future stuff or she’ll think she wasn’t actually born in the ’50s but instead in an old fashioned family. Details? won’t even think of them!
I’m reminded of that *Torchwood* episode where two people got pulled forward from 1953 to 2006 – an older man, a woman in her thirties and a gently-brought-up teenage girl. The man broke down completely, the woman decided she had no place in this time and picked a solution, but the girl adapted and after a bumpy start was fine. So… well, I think Rex Vivat is probably right. Imogene might be resilient enough to cope, with reality-blindness a help rather than a hindrance. Like Debbie’s, it would probably be more painful for others to see than for her.
Random thought: reality blindness is not something _evolved_ but invented, either by a time travelling mad or an archaic mad, to minimize the number of people who upon encountering mads would do the sensible thing to someone with such power and weak grasp of morality and consequences: decapitation, followed by burning, followed by scattering of ashes in a fast-flowing stream. (Before the time-traveling mad scientists tampered with it, scripture was “do not suffer a Mad Scientist to live.” The mads are sorry about it, but better the witches than them).
I liked the purple hair. Eyeshadow was a bit much.
If I didn’t think it would be a detriment at work – I’d consider dying my hair a non-natural colour – of course I generally keep it in a flat-top, so it would grow out quickly.
Good luck on that, Hastur only visits earth in his embassies, and those only last till the last actor is dead and the theater is burned to the ground. I’m pretty sure Cthulu is currently residing in a foreign capital as well, voiding any residency requirements. Plus, he’s at least partly dead.
No, for the REAL eldritch horror ticket go Nyarlothep/Limbaugh.
I don’t think R’lyeh was ever recognized as a sovereign nation, so there’s no problem there. Same with Hastur’s embassies. As for your other concern… it is not dead which can eternal lie.
@Rex@ Yeah, but if you’re not from a legally recognized place, such as a sunken island in international waters somewhere between Chile and Antarctica, you’re not technically a citizen of anywhere, US or otherwise, so that leaves us right back where we started.
On the upside, Helen’s cure from Narbonic seems to be a once a day type thing, so if they can knock her out and take her with them when they escape, she should be back to the 80s faster than Marty McFly.
I have an inkling that they are not going to take Debbie with them after all.
Or else Imogene will be inspired to go back to the future and change the past! ^_^
Poor Imogene. Those eyes.
I know! You can actually see her heart breaking in panel 3.
I think that imagining poor Imogene on the cure is horrific. Certainly, she may be trapped in the 50s, but that’s because she /really did travel forward from there./ If Anasigma uses the cure on her, then… I don’t even want to imagine what would happen.
She’d probably either go crazy from the stress/shock of temporal displacement, or her reality blindness would make her think it was still the 1950s. Either way wouldn’t be pretty.
Or all the “future” that her madness has been actively denying would flood in and she would update to modern parlance.
At the risk of offense; when I think of reality blind people who deny things their brains can’t handle, I think of repressive religious folk from cultural throw-back towns that like to PRETEND they live in an idealized 1950s.
I don’t think we necessarily know she’d become normal /for 1950/, it might just make her assimilate into the surrounding culture and not question the status quo. Clone!Dave wasn’t really bothered by missing several years of his life, as I recall he just shrugged and said something about time flying before you know it.
She’d have to deal with memories of the 50s and not looking like she’s ready to retire. That’s a status quo with severe flaws…
It was noted in the Narbonic Commentary that Clone!Dave was talking about American Idol even though his memories were cut off before that show even aired – The Cure is a scary thing.
Honestly? She’d probably still say everything’s “futuristic”, but would stop trying to take over the world
Imogene on the Cure would probably look like Dave’ after he was told the truth. She’d probably convince herself that she just knows a lot about the ’50s and doesn’t pay much attention to pop culture, and even that part’s negotiable.
(TUNE: “Am I Blue”, Harry Akst & Grant Clarke)
Donahue … Donahue …
Clean of jaw, hair of blond, eyes of blue!
But now you … say he’s through!
Don’t believe! Can’t conceive! Isn’t true!
In my day,
He ruled the silver screen!
Now you say
He’s gone and split the scene!
(Bad machine!)
Hate your phone!
I’m alone!
I can’t give … my love to …
Donahue!
Wasn’t Troy Donahue once married to Suzanne Pleshette for a while?
Wiki says during 1964.
Donahue *is* married to Suzanne Pleshette in 1964. Use of the present tense is called for when describing transient conditions such as utterly unacceptable historical facts.
If she wasn’t Mad already, that would be a dangerous thing to do.
Still a dangerous thing to do. There is Mad, and there Mad. Not all mad is created equal. Especially since her day-to-day Mad seems mostly harmless. (except for those poor squirrels….)
Specifically (or generally) I’m thinking of the various tropes where beating the hero or heroine down completely then threatening their friends/lovers/family/etc. makes them level up all Ichigo Kurasaki (Bleach)or Super Sayian (Dragonball) style.
OR for that matter – Obi Wan style – killing him makes him more powerful….
Come to think of it, aren’t a lot of the people we’ve met in the Adventures of Skin Horse also dead? Some of ’em are pretty lively, too. So there’s still hope for Imogene and Troy…
That’s what I was just thinking! She shouldn’t think of death as an obstacle, it’s a chance to mold her beau how she wants him to be! Indestructible!
Unity in Troy Donahue’s body is a scary idea.
Heh, heh, heh…
If they used the cure on Imogene wouldn’t she just turn into more of a ’50s Home Ec student?
I think the challenge is reconciling “I was a teen in the 1950s” with “I’m not seventy-plus years old in 2014.” She’d be sane, but her condition would be inexplicable, and would require a new delusion to cover the cracks in her world view.
(I just learned that she’s actually from the 1950s, and her mad scientist mother accidentally threw her forwards in time. Little details that make a big difference.)
Easy. She was in a coma from the lab accident, the coma kept her from aging normally, new meds were discovered to bring her out of it. The inconvenient memories are just dreams she had. Legally it may be tricky; as a chronological adult she’ll need the paperwork and a cover document to explain that she’s had cosmetic surgery so she doesn’t look as old as her driver’s license says she is.
Cover the cracks? Convoluted and complex background stories? You are all overthinking this. Reality blindness works by making you ignore inconvenient thruths. Either she’ll ignore all this future stuff or she’ll think she wasn’t actually born in the ’50s but instead in an old fashioned family. Details? won’t even think of them!
If she ignores all the future stuff, she’s _functionally_ crazy.
I’m reminded of that *Torchwood* episode where two people got pulled forward from 1953 to 2006 – an older man, a woman in her thirties and a gently-brought-up teenage girl. The man broke down completely, the woman decided she had no place in this time and picked a solution, but the girl adapted and after a bumpy start was fine. So… well, I think Rex Vivat is probably right. Imogene might be resilient enough to cope, with reality-blindness a help rather than a hindrance. Like Debbie’s, it would probably be more painful for others to see than for her.
Which doesn’t make it OK to do it, of course…
She wants to upgrade and I want to go back to XP 😛
In a few short years, when you type “XP” young people will think it means “screwing up your eyes while sticking your tongue out.”
They already do. I tried telling a few people what my version of Office was in 2003, they all thought I was doing the face
RAMPAGE RAMPAGE RAMPAGE RAMPAGE RAMPAGE RAMPAGE
What would a 50s rampage look like? *goes get some old Superman comics*
Random thought: reality blindness is not something _evolved_ but invented, either by a time travelling mad or an archaic mad, to minimize the number of people who upon encountering mads would do the sensible thing to someone with such power and weak grasp of morality and consequences: decapitation, followed by burning, followed by scattering of ashes in a fast-flowing stream. (Before the time-traveling mad scientists tampered with it, scripture was “do not suffer a Mad Scientist to live.” The mads are sorry about it, but better the witches than them).
I’m not gonna lie. I like her better now. Her makeup creeped me out.
I liked the purple hair. Eyeshadow was a bit much.
If I didn’t think it would be a detriment at work – I’d consider dying my hair a non-natural colour – of course I generally keep it in a flat-top, so it would grow out quickly.
So the Cure makes you sane but doesn’t cure pure evil. I think I perfer my evil insane that way they don’t get anything accomplished.
Cthulu / Hastur 2016. Why settle for a Lesser Evil?
So long as they can both show they were citizens of the US at the time the Constitution was ratified, they are eligible.
Good luck on that, Hastur only visits earth in his embassies, and those only last till the last actor is dead and the theater is burned to the ground. I’m pretty sure Cthulu is currently residing in a foreign capital as well, voiding any residency requirements. Plus, he’s at least partly dead.
No, for the REAL eldritch horror ticket go Nyarlothep/Limbaugh.
I don’t think R’lyeh was ever recognized as a sovereign nation, so there’s no problem there. Same with Hastur’s embassies. As for your other concern… it is not dead which can eternal lie.
O come on now. That’s just disrespectful. Nyarlathotep isn’t that bad.
@Rex@ Yeah, but if you’re not from a legally recognized place, such as a sunken island in international waters somewhere between Chile and Antarctica, you’re not technically a citizen of anywhere, US or otherwise, so that leaves us right back where we started.
On the upside, Helen’s cure from Narbonic seems to be a once a day type thing, so if they can knock her out and take her with them when they escape, she should be back to the 80s faster than Marty McFly.
I started reading Imogen’s lines in Mabel Pine’s voice and now I can’t stop.
Frank, wiki “Battle of Athens” to see what such a rampage was like… What did the policeman in Young Frankenstein say about riots?
Katrika, I read her in Judy Jetson’s vice… it helps…
If he was married to Suzanne Pleshette, there’s always an off chance that his death is just a dream he’s having after some bad Chinese.
This is giving me real One Flew the Cuckoo’s Nest vibe….
Who’s Chief? 😛