From the conversation, it was Nick’s idea. Besides, Ira doesn’t work at the skin-horse headquarters and wouldn’t have been on the list of participants, so how would he have known about it unless Nick told him?
But Nick doesn’t have manipulators, not even sad little arms like Moustachio. Would Ira know how to make an origami unicorn? Could he be taught, given his mind’s state? And before anyone trots out the living backwards in time idea, the movie Blade Runner is in Ira’s future under that theory.
We can’t really make that assumption. How do you know origami unicorns don’t also show up in the upcoming Blade Runner sequel, which Ira might have already seen…? 😛
They cleared him because of a phone call from the future version of one of the agents, which could easily have been Future/Past Ira with a voice changer.
Hm. I didn’t consider that. The only thing a person living backwards in time could be surprised by (ignoring that he can only spend so much personal ‘time’ looking stuff up) is something which leaves no record in our-future/his-past…I think.
What other helicopter would be dropping Ira down a rope to deliver an origami unicorn to Dr. Lee?
I’m really fascinated by Ira’s line, though, because it actually makes sense. You wouldn’t want a form of amnesia that erases physical skills.
Gee, I didn’t think so…maybe ’cause I’m one of those who read the book long before the movie came out. (Also some things were lifted from another book, by Alan E. Nourse, particularly the title.)
Look, this is all very simple, really. When beings from higher planes of existence compress themselves down in order to visit our more limited space-time, there are sometimes going to be small incongruities. It’s impressive that Ira is managing all the physical bits, like breathing and entropy and wearing his kidneys inside his skin; cut him some slack on the personality interface, OK?
I don’t think that the giver is a secret, nor did the computer choose him. I’m still wondering how Nick folded the unicorn in the first place. Ira may be secretly smart, but he doesn’t seem like he has the crafting skills.
Ira reminds me of Old man McGucket from gravity falls, he has had memory Ray’s used on him and forgot most of his memory, was somewhat insane, but got it back and is really a smart intellegent guy.
So Ira has more backstory than any of us could have imagined…
He has literally forgotten more life than most of us will ever live.
This is Ira. He has perfect eidetic memory – and retrograde amnesia.
And anterograde amnesia.
And future sight
Would precognition fall under the heading of “anterograde mnesia”?
*laughs in future*
So one question…was this Ira’s idea, or Nick’s? Nick certainly knows her well enough…
Ira might be living backwards in time, so Nick probably collaborated with him to pull off this stunt.
From the conversation, it was Nick’s idea. Besides, Ira doesn’t work at the skin-horse headquarters and wouldn’t have been on the list of participants, so how would he have known about it unless Nick told him?
But Nick doesn’t have manipulators, not even sad little arms like Moustachio. Would Ira know how to make an origami unicorn? Could he be taught, given his mind’s state? And before anyone trots out the living backwards in time idea, the movie Blade Runner is in Ira’s future under that theory.
We can’t really make that assumption. How do you know origami unicorns don’t also show up in the upcoming Blade Runner sequel, which Ira might have already seen…? 😛
The BTA agents cleared him, though…
They did. But then, to me, a backward traveling Ira seems one of the likeliest candidates for founder of the BTA…
So basically, people are theorizing that Ira is Black Ops Merlin?
They cleared him because of a phone call from the future version of one of the agents, which could easily have been Future/Past Ira with a voice changer.
Hm. I didn’t consider that. The only thing a person living backwards in time could be surprised by (ignoring that he can only spend so much personal ‘time’ looking stuff up) is something which leaves no record in our-future/his-past…I think.
Maybe Baron Mistycorn did the folding?
Hadn’t realized it was Nick till just now.
What other helicopter would be dropping Ira down a rope to deliver an origami unicorn to Dr. Lee?
I’m really fascinated by Ira’s line, though, because it actually makes sense. You wouldn’t want a form of amnesia that erases physical skills.
Nah, just didn’t realize it. Missed the point.
Of course, too, I havent rappelled since high school and I’m pretty sure I’d need a few refreshers in procedure…
If you follow the trail back far enough, everything was Ira’s idea
Yes, yes, very festive. Now somebody get the Voight-Kampff test.
Just don’t ask Unity. I think we’d all know what she’d do if she found a flipped-over tortoise in the desert.
Spew zombie nanites all over it?
Eat it.
She’d play with it first.
All of the above?
And more disturbing personal info about Dr. Lee, too.
So she wants to be Jennifer Grey? Or does she identify with the character?
Maybe she has a thing for Sean Young? (Not the way I do, I assume.) Or maybe she dreams of electric sheep too?
The electric sheep didn’t even feature in the movie. In this and other respects, the movie was the very opposite of the book (and better for it).
Gee, I didn’t think so…maybe ’cause I’m one of those who read the book long before the movie came out. (Also some things were lifted from another book, by Alan E. Nourse, particularly the title.)
awwwwww
So… Nick rescued – or should I say “salvaged” – Ira from Annex One? Interesting partnership.
Is that Ira forgetting his cover identity? Or just forgetting his real one?
Ira will never let us know,
And — for that matter — may never know himself.
Look, this is all very simple, really. When beings from higher planes of existence compress themselves down in order to visit our more limited space-time, there are sometimes going to be small incongruities. It’s impressive that Ira is managing all the physical bits, like breathing and entropy and wearing his kidneys inside his skin; cut him some slack on the personality interface, OK?
Yeah, it’s tricky. The number of times I’ve put faces on five sides of the head, or left the head off altogether!
I _have_ theorized that Ira is an Eldritch Abomination which doesn’t remember it is one…
If I tried to make an origami unicorn it would probably end up looking like a mutant porcupine
Don’t leave it near Unity…
Then she’d have a matched set!
Wait, this means the computer didn’t leave her off the list entirely. Does this mean that somebody won’t be getting a present and doesn’t know why?
I don’t think that the giver is a secret, nor did the computer choose him. I’m still wondering how Nick folded the unicorn in the first place. Ira may be secretly smart, but he doesn’t seem like he has the crafting skills.
…so Nick is a rogue secret Santa?
Ira reminds me of Old man McGucket from gravity falls, he has had memory Ray’s used on him and forgot most of his memory, was somewhat insane, but got it back and is really a smart intellegent guy.
Three years on and nothing about Dirty Dancing, Roadhouse, Ghost, or “A Patrick Swayze Christmas”?
Ah, but of course.
Jolly old St. Nick.