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2020-11-10

by shaenon on November 10, 2020 at 12:01 am
Chapter: The Lee of the Stone
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  1. Jerry Aethers
    November 10, 2020, 12:11 am | # | Reply

    When education is your enemy, you may be on the wrong side.

    • Towering Barbarian
      November 10, 2020, 12:42 am | # | Reply

      That presumes the education is actually more than mere indoctrination. ๐Ÿ˜›

      • s854
        November 10, 2020, 6:43 am | # | Reply

        It’s always more than mere indoctrination, as rote learning trains the memory. The indoctrination is there, though.

      • skullthetroll
        November 10, 2020, 11:07 am | # | Reply

        Ah yes the indoctrination that teaches kids to do math and learn about science. Terrible, just terrible.

        • s854
          November 10, 2020, 8:37 pm | # | Reply

          Absolutely. Do you teach children times tables? Do you teach about four figure tables? Do you teach the controversy? Whatever you do, you’re also teaching about what you believe is worth knowing. You could call it terrible, but there isn’t an alternative.

          In any case, I’m sure Artie’s done far more to undermine America (or the America Mr. Green values) outside the classroom.

        • Towering Barbarian
          November 11, 2020, 12:21 am | # | Reply

          Yeah, lots of math and science being shown in 65% of college students in this story, right? ๐Ÿ˜›

          • Towering Barbarian
            November 11, 2020, 12:25 am | #

            Let’s see if the link goes through this time.

            https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/410351/

          • Zero
            November 11, 2020, 1:18 am | #

            So you have a fake source saying that college students were asked misleading poll questions and gave real answers anyway. And that fake poll would have said exactly the same thing whichever way the results went, which is the point of misleading polls.
            So it seems you have proven that college students are smarter than you; I suspect this is not a shocking revelation.

          • Towering Barbarian
            November 12, 2020, 12:24 am | #

            Well, there you go! Arson and looting are Zero’s idea of smart! ๐Ÿ˜›

            And note that he did not see the logical contradiction between claiming a source was fake and then complaining about the circumstances of the story that he claimed was fake. ^O^

        • BrokenEye, the True False Prophet
          November 22, 2020, 8:08 am | # | Reply

          I’unno, man. I still can’t do math worth shit, but I can recite the pledge of allegiance by heart.

        • awgiedawgie
          November 22, 2020, 8:35 am | # | Reply

          When I’ve got 18 year old employees at McRonald’s who can’t figure out how much change to give the customer โ€“ and don’t even have the sense to punch the numbers into the computer because the amount of money handed to them caused their brain to seize up โ€“ they’re definitely not teaching kids how to do math well enough.

  2. RoyD
    November 10, 2020, 12:21 am | # | Reply

    Ah, those moments when antagonists go from “they might be salvageable, given enough time and effort” straight to “time to grab a number and stand in line to strangle them with my bare hands”.

  3. dvandom
    November 10, 2020, 12:22 am | # | Reply

    I’ll have you know that educators do a lot of HARD WORK in our efforts to undermine America.

    • Frank
      November 10, 2020, 12:53 am | # | Reply

      and a few other countries as well!

  4. Alphaghoul
    November 10, 2020, 12:45 am | # | Reply

    Dang, roborat team is really overselling how stupid they are. Why do they agree that the donut thing is worth remembering, and how is being a public school teacher undermining america?

    • Thenardyr
      November 10, 2020, 3:04 am | # | Reply

      Iโ€™m honestly more disturbed that the rat colony, and Valiant in particular, seem to be suffering the symptoms of โ€œThe Cure,โ€ meaning reality/weirdness blindness.

      • jdreyfuss
        November 10, 2020, 8:44 am | # | Reply

        No, everyone is reality blind to a greater or lesser extent. Apparently the rats have so much confidence in the security of their colony that they, or at least Valiant, can’t conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated.

      • martin.m.mcintosh@gmail.com
        November 10, 2020, 11:07 am | # | Reply

        I really like this theory. Skin Horse often has characters acting in a hardheaded/stupid manner but this is an extreme that seems born of reality blindness, and since the rats live in the sewers, all the cure residue that’s been washed down the storm drains might be affecting their brains. Anasigma’s just been spreading it willy-nilly with the atomizer, right? I doubt they considered environmental effects… and if it’s affecting NHS’s and making them unable to resist… all the better.

        • Martin
          November 10, 2020, 11:08 am | # | Reply

          yikes, that’s what I get for not reading boxes before hitting post. If anyone wants to send me angry emails, uh, go ahead

        • thenardyr
          November 11, 2020, 11:57 pm | # | Reply

          Hey, good analysis! That would explain the rat colony’s behavior.

          As for Valiant not being able to conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated…plausible, but very disappointing in an IT professional. If anyone should be a professional paranoiac, it should be IT folks.

    • Dorcus
      November 10, 2020, 11:27 am | # | Reply

      There are…people. We’ll avoid naming names of political groups, but there are people who think that public schools are evil, that they exist purely to indoctrinate children in evil Anti-America propaganda with the goal of destroying America because reasons. These imaginary “Evil Indoctrination Public Schools” don’t have to make sense because the aforementioned people have rather cartoonish views of the world at large.

      • awgiedawgie
        November 10, 2020, 5:00 pm | # | Reply

        And then there are people who refuse to believe that there are public schools โ€“ not all public schools, mind you โ€“ that are indeed indoctrinating our kids with anti-American propaganda. Maybe those people refuse to believe that because they themselves have been indoctrinated by one of those very schools. People can’t see the truth because they’ve been taught their whole lives that it doesn’t exist.

        • warrenrose4254
          November 10, 2020, 5:20 pm | # | Reply

          How about: “there are schools โ€“ not all schools, mind you” with no leading signifier?

          There are definitely a number of private schools with their own fair share of problems.

          • awgiedawgie
            November 10, 2020, 6:32 pm | #

            No dispute there.

        • Dorcus
          November 10, 2020, 6:29 pm | # | Reply

          Case in point.

        • Robert Nowall
          November 10, 2020, 8:49 pm | # | Reply

          Been suspicious of the modern era schools (i. e. everything that came after I was there), ever since I happened to mention Paul Revere to my niece and nephew and got a blank look. Didn’t know who Paul Revere was. Didn’t even know the poem I parodied yesterday.

        • Zero
          November 11, 2020, 1:22 am | # | Reply

          People who are concerned about “anti-America” tend to be openly, unambiguously, and unabashedly anti-American.

      • warrenrose4254
        November 10, 2020, 5:08 pm | # | Reply

        I recommend Googling the report on the Sovereign Citizens Movement by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The unfounded belief that someone can remove themselves from the standard legal system by avoiding public school and filing nonsense paperwork stretches across political groups, but probably has more traction in some than others.

        • warrenrose4254
          November 10, 2020, 5:12 pm | # | Reply

          Their reasons for avoiding American public school, while wrong, are at least concrete.

  5. arqyx
    November 10, 2020, 6:50 am | # | Reply

    “Horror Every Day” is back. Yay! Thanks, Shaenon. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Alphaghoul
      November 11, 2020, 12:05 am | # | Reply

      I donโ€™t know what that means but since I donโ€™t remember seeing you here, welcome to the forums.

      • arqyx
        November 11, 2020, 6:27 am | # | Reply

        โ€œHorror Every Dayโ€ is Shaenon’s 2018 mpvie-a-day compendium.
        http://www.horrormovie.today/

  6. Robert Nowall
    November 10, 2020, 7:33 am | # | Reply

    They do get three months off in the summer.

    • awgiedawgie
      November 10, 2020, 11:02 am | # | Reply

      No, students get three months off. The teachers are lucky if they get two weeks.

      • skullthetroll
        November 10, 2020, 11:10 am | # | Reply

        Teachers get less time off than any other profession I’m aware of. They just don’t get paid for it. I doubled my salary moving from being a special education teacher to working in hospital finance and now I only work 8 hours a day and get weekends off.

        • D. Walker
          November 10, 2020, 11:55 am | # | Reply

          I can only assume you don’t work for a non-profit hospital.

          • sighthoundman
            November 10, 2020, 10:19 pm | #

            Non-profit hospital? How many of those are left? (Yes, I know there are many that _claim_ to be non-profit.)

    • Vincent
      November 10, 2020, 12:35 pm | # | Reply

      Where I’m at, the time you get off is due to 9-10 hour work days.

  7. Shadowmehr
    November 10, 2020, 1:19 pm | # | Reply

    I’m guessing that Echo Bravo was that kid in the back of the class that spent more time looking out the window and ducking the teacher’s questions than studying.

    • kag
      November 10, 2020, 2:04 pm | # | Reply

      Now you have me wondering how EB would do at Calvinball.

      • awgiedawgie
        November 10, 2020, 4:49 pm | # | Reply

        Well, he’s good at taking blows to the head, but no, I don’t think he’s anywhere near smart enough to play Calvinball.

      • casimir
        November 10, 2020, 8:21 pm | # | Reply

        Whereas young Calvin had an excess of imagination, Young Echo was, most likely, sadly lacking it.

  8. warrenrose4254
    November 10, 2020, 5:32 pm | # | Reply

    Regional Language note: In the UK, Public and Independent and Private schools all refer to schools that charge students a fee to separate them from the general public. There are several types of State-Sponsored schools are ones open to the general public.

    By “public school” here, Artie is saying he works for a fee-less state-sponsored junior school.

    • warrenrose4254
      November 10, 2020, 11:10 pm | # | Reply

      Er… I’m Californian, so my apologies if I phrased anything wrong ๐Ÿ™‚

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