“They’re gonna be toast!”
“Uh, sir, if they’re kitchen appliances, wouldn’t they enjoy that?”
“Fine, we’re gonna be toast”
“That doesn’t bode well for us, sir”
The appliances chez nous certainly are. Fridge, Microwave, Dishwasher, Washer, Dryer, Oven… they all make little beepy noises. I know they are talking about us behind our backs at night.
They obviously don’t watch enough slasher movies. Kitchenware can be deadly against better armed foes, if used correctly (and the wielder has a scary mask).
Nazis are still humans. I’m human. Robots aren’t human. It’s all pretty straight-forward. (I have this same problem when reading Marvel’s X-books, given that I’m not a mutant.)
It’s actually not at all straight-forward. Well, yes, in fact it is, but not in the way you seem to think it is.
The Nazis were proponents of mass genocide. They didn’t even think of the Jews – or anyone who was not a member of the “master race” – as being human. And that’s essentially what Ira/Mr. Green is pushing for in wanting to wipe out anyone who he deems “less than human”.
It’s a battle of evil vs. good, not human vs. non-human (there are, in point of fact, several humans on the side of good, and Mr. Green was perfectly content to make use of the non-humans at AG-I – not to mention using the Violet Bee drone – when it served his purpose).
IMHO, sapient machines with a capacity for self-sacrificing morality are people as much as we biological machines are. And A-Sig hardly represents humanity as a whole: it’s not humans vs robots, it’s one group of (awful) humans against one group of (decent) robots. You’re creating an artificial them-vs-us division here.
(Marvel X-men is a touch different, in that the Marvel universe is _full_ of human-hating mutants with horrific powers. They’ve got existential threats up the ass.)
Agreed, Bruce. You illustrate the point very well. These sapient machines are indeed people, albeit non-human ones, and yet Mr. Green wants to destroy them, and all other non-human sapients, either because he doesn’t see them as people, or just doesn’t care. Personally, I’m going with just doesn’t care.
And bringing up the Nazis is a propos, because these soldiers in green, who are presumably working for A-sig, are “just following orders.”
Are you really assuming the A-Sig soldiers are “normal humans”? I think the closest thing to a normal human anywhere in this entire comic series is Nera. And maybe Konstantin.
The A-sig soldiers might just be normal humans using a lot of very high tech. (Including replicated Mad-Sciency tech. We know Virginia helped design their equipment, and Virginia is very, very good at making very, very bad things.)
I don’t know why these guys don’t get along better with Skin-Horse.
Cuz these guys are just plain stupid. Skin Horse is merely inept. It’s like stripes and plaid – they just don’t go together.
They don’t? Erm… know any place that takes clothing donations? Asking for a friend
I dunno, they went together on me when I was younger and my personal style could best be described as “WTF Eclectic”
Well, I assume the green guys are working for A-sig, so they have their orders…
“They’re gonna be toast!”
“Uh, sir, if they’re kitchen appliances, wouldn’t they enjoy that?”
“Fine, we’re gonna be toast”
“That doesn’t bode well for us, sir”
As they march, they chant “O-Ee-Yah! Eoh-Ah!”…
Is that how it’s spelled? I’ve always heard it as “o-ee-oh, yo-ah!”
I always heard it as “ore-o, oreee-o”.
http://thewizardofoz.info/wiki/The_Movie_-_Trivia_and_Miscellany#What_is_it_that_the_Wicked_Witch.27s_guards_are_chanting.3F seems to confirm it…
I can certainly accept a screenplay’s spelling.
If you’re talking about the chant I think you are, it’s “all we own, we owe”.
Nah, it’s what the Winkies chant while guarding the Witch’s castle in The Wizard of Oz.
Only in the movie version.
I dunno. Sentient kitchenware would be a scary foe to me! ^_^
I agree.
More of my blood has been drawn in the kitchen than by the Army (excluding deliberate medical procedures).
The appliances chez nous certainly are. Fridge, Microwave, Dishwasher, Washer, Dryer, Oven… they all make little beepy noises. I know they are talking about us behind our backs at night.
They obviously don’t watch enough slasher movies. Kitchenware can be deadly against better armed foes, if used correctly (and the wielder has a scary mask).
That said, I can see in the 2nd panel that these guys buys their weapons from the same place Sargent Schlock does. ^_~
Well… it’s not an Ominous Hummmm
I was wondering why the one guy’s helmet had a point while the other guy’s didn’t.
His helmet gets Sirius/XM satellite radio
These guys have been outfitted by Mad Science.
No two articles (unless they are clone soldiers) are going to be exactly alike.
Matter or rank. I’d think – the guy with the pointy helmet sounds like he’s in command.
The other guy calls him sir, too.
Is it wrong of me to be rooting for the normal humans over the killer kitchenware?
Yes.
Given that these people work for Asig, which has genocidal plans for non-humans, it’s essentially supporting the Nazis in a Nazis vs robots scenario.
Nazis are still humans. I’m human. Robots aren’t human. It’s all pretty straight-forward. (I have this same problem when reading Marvel’s X-books, given that I’m not a mutant.)
It’s actually not at all straight-forward. Well, yes, in fact it is, but not in the way you seem to think it is.
The Nazis were proponents of mass genocide. They didn’t even think of the Jews – or anyone who was not a member of the “master race” – as being human. And that’s essentially what Ira/Mr. Green is pushing for in wanting to wipe out anyone who he deems “less than human”.
It’s a battle of evil vs. good, not human vs. non-human (there are, in point of fact, several humans on the side of good, and Mr. Green was perfectly content to make use of the non-humans at AG-I – not to mention using the Violet Bee drone – when it served his purpose).
IMHO, sapient machines with a capacity for self-sacrificing morality are people as much as we biological machines are. And A-Sig hardly represents humanity as a whole: it’s not humans vs robots, it’s one group of (awful) humans against one group of (decent) robots. You’re creating an artificial them-vs-us division here.
(Marvel X-men is a touch different, in that the Marvel universe is _full_ of human-hating mutants with horrific powers. They’ve got existential threats up the ass.)
Agreed, Bruce. You illustrate the point very well. These sapient machines are indeed people, albeit non-human ones, and yet Mr. Green wants to destroy them, and all other non-human sapients, either because he doesn’t see them as people, or just doesn’t care. Personally, I’m going with just doesn’t care.
And bringing up the Nazis is a propos, because these soldiers in green, who are presumably working for A-sig, are “just following orders.”
Are you really assuming the A-Sig soldiers are “normal humans”? I think the closest thing to a normal human anywhere in this entire comic series is Nera. And maybe Konstantin.
Alas, humans being assholes is all too normal. 🙂
Touché.
The A-sig soldiers might just be normal humans using a lot of very high tech. (Including replicated Mad-Sciency tech. We know Virginia helped design their equipment, and Virginia is very, very good at making very, very bad things.)