Not quite a Terry line, rough quote “They believe in gods in much the same way you or I would believe in tables. Yes, they believe they’re there, and the place would look ruddy ridiculous without them. But they see no reason to go about seriously believing in a table. So, might as well just eat off your knees as it were.”
Prettttty sure I butchered that, but I do know it was about tables. I’m pretty sure it was about tables – gods though. It was in one of the Rincewind books. Towards the start. I think. Or, hedging my bets here, it was from Reaperman.
Tip is always absurdly and counterstereotypically badass. If ever he failed to be badass, the comic will be sued for trannyphobia (or transphobia, whatever they are now calling it)
So I say he will shoot Dr Jones gun out of her hand, then shoot her in the shoulder. Then have sex with her, James Bond style.
Ok, see:
1) Tip has failed to be badass in the past.
2) Being defeated by Jones probably wouldn’t count as not being badass. It’s the attitude, not the results.
3) The idea that a comic would be sued just because a character didn’t win a duel is really, really silly. (Not that it would stop some people from trying, though.)
Yeah, if you could go ahead and not throw slurs around, especially with the cute ‘whatever they are now calling it’ bit that just proves you know what you said ain’t it. That’d be great.
I genuinely don’tg know what they are now calling it, and I bet if you took a survey, 99% of the population would not know either. You guys keep changing the language so fast.
“Transphobia”, from “transgender” + “phobia”. “Tranny” is a highly derogatory term for transgendered people derived from its usage in porn movies (which a small percentage of trans people perform in to help pay for their surgeries, hormone treatments, etc., all of which are VERY expensive and only recently eligible for coverage by insurance companies who felt that the treatments were ‘experimental’, not necessary, etc.).
I know because I have a good friend who just happens to be F2M transgendered, but even before he realized that he had been born the wrong gender and started the transition process, the term “tranny” made me cringe because of its derogatory usage in porn. (And can you blame trans folk? Who would want to be treated exclusively as a fetish object, anyway?)
I was thinking of the different White Rabbit.
Her mojo’s…big blaster…
Has powered up to show them all.
He paces…with Alice…to turn and fire down the hall.
There are pistols with the profile of popguns like .25’s but chambered for .45 ACP or 9mm rounds. The smaller size means less accuracy at range (which is largely a function of barrel length and mass), but if you have the skill to hit a target they’ll be just as dead as if you shot ’em with a 1911A.
Colt Commando Revolver, WWII issue.
.38 Special, mostly with a two inch barrel, with less than 10% manufactured with a 4 inch barrel and many of those shortened to 2 inch afterwards. More than 45,000 produced.
Detailed discussion at: http://gunandswordcollector.com/Templates/articles/7_WW2_colt.html
From that article:
“In August 1942, a request for the procurement of 20,000 of Colt’s Official Police revolver [for the DSC] brought a price of $28, considered high by the District. Colt’s insistence that this was the lowest price at which their regular commercial gun could be sold to the government led to a request to design a gun as near like the Official Police as possible which Colt’s could make for $25 or less. Thus the “Commando” was born. It differed from the Official Police only in having a matted blued finish rather than the polished blued, and eliminated checkering on the cylinder latch and trigger, and the matting on top of the frame. It had plastic stocks. No polished surfaces were visible to reflect light.”
One gun’s so much larger,
And one is rather small …
We’re preparing for a duel, now,
In a crowded shopping mall!
I’ve got Alice …
Don’t need more at all!
I’m confronting Tigerlily,
And she wants her mojo back …
So she’s arming for the battle,
‘Cause she’s done with talking smack!
I’ve got Alice …
Alice has my back!
Into Hammerspace she reaches …
Man, that’s one Big Freakin’ Gun!
But I have my favorite weapon
That is second-best to none …
I’ve got Alice!
She is Number One!
Now the words are getting heated,
And the battles getting hot!
I recall the words of Yoda,
Who said, “Size, it matters not!”
And when dueling,
One thing I was taught …
Don’t get shot!
Don’t get shot!
Eddurd – That is FAR FAR better than what I was trying to come up with driving in at 4 in the morning. I posted after I parked so I didn’t lose the thought (as happens WAY too often…
Tip may actually have the advantage since Tiger Lilly’s gun is so big it would be much less maneuverable and the extra power would be unnecessary agains flesh. Dead is dead while spinning a hunk of metal that big would be slow. That said they’re both mad so physics doesn’t apply to them in the usual way.
Actually I’m fairly sure he’s meant to be a mad psychologist based on the archives, including the Narbonic comic. While the comics are very comical (pun intended) there are some trends that keep the world coherent, like mad scientists are capable of things impossible for sane people. A good example for comparing genius and madness that comes to mind is the “My brother sam is dead” story arc, with Artie and Dr. Lee. Narbonic also constantly hinted Dave was a mad scientist in the making throughout, even in the first comic.
So she thinks killing him will get her “mojo” back, even though he’s a psychologist and he’d could use his professional knowledge to help her with that provided she bribes him with a night in bed. But I guess it just makes as much sense as Imogene going down to her local library and researching changes in casually worn clothing from the fifties to modern times. But of course, that would make sense, and these people are mad scientists.
In reply to Robert Nowall, one does not duel informally, nor should a proper villain utter threats on a first name basis.
For example, “I have you now, Professor Jones” is much more proper than “Gotcha, Indy.”
My real concern is that a two-handed weapon is not normally considered a pistol, for dueling purposes. While Rule 10 of the Code Duello might argue that as the “offended lady,” Dr. Jones has more leeway in choosing her weaponry after Tip has chosen a pistol, the spirit of the rules are that the weapons be at least comparable. In addition, the use of a second hand and grip would violate Rule 19, by providing an aiming rest, which has been prohibited for centuries now. There’s a reason why the Musketeers fought with swords…fighting a duel with two arquebuses on stands was just ridiculous to watch…but I digress.
Since both have apparently waived their right to a second, they should be discussing this in the next panel, to maintain the propriety of the duel, since they also need to establish firing distance and any rules involving collateral damage.
Or, they could just skip the preliminaries and get undressed…
Okay, I’m calling it now. The next several strips will be the two of them jumping around, imitating movie badasses as much as possible while sniping at each other, and ending with a draw: Alice out of ammo, Tigerlily’s rifle(?) out of power, both of them facing each other panting.
And the entire shopping mall little more than rubble around them from the fallout.
I’m wondering if he actually believes it.
He ‘believes’ in it the way that you or I would believe in floor lamps.
Is that a Terry Pratchett quote? It sounds like a Pratchett quote. If it’s not, then kudos.
Not quite a Terry line, rough quote “They believe in gods in much the same way you or I would believe in tables. Yes, they believe they’re there, and the place would look ruddy ridiculous without them. But they see no reason to go about seriously believing in a table. So, might as well just eat off your knees as it were.”
Prettttty sure I butchered that, but I do know it was about tables. I’m pretty sure it was about tables – gods though. It was in one of the Rincewind books. Towards the start. I think. Or, hedging my bets here, it was from Reaperman.
I think it’s said at least once per book featuring the witches. Probably in Reaper Man, too, though.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/311254-wizards-don-t-believe-in-gods-in-the-same-way-that
Half Terry Pratchett, half Diane Duane.
“He shot my gun!”
-A Miracle of Science
we have seen him use alice, I say they are evenly matched
I think they both have good points at a traditional duel, but Tip does have her mojo.
Tip paints the more badass image.
Well, this is spooky. Just had that old “Aqua” song “Dr Jones” playing in the shop I was in. Now all I can think of is:
Dr Jones, Jones, duelling Dr Jones,
Dr Jones, Dr Jones get shot now…
But my brain can’t make any more lyrics.
Please come and see me again, I’ve never felt more alone… or something like that.
Were you thinking of this?
That is clearly NOT a pistol, Tigerlily.
Also, where was she KEEPING it?
What do you mean? Mad science rayguns just happen.
And then they explode…
That came from Hammerspace, clearly.
Nope, BFGspace. If you keep just anything in your Hammerspace, how would you find anything quickly when you need the right tool right now?
OTOH, if your only extradimensional storage is Hammerspace, all your problems start to look like disrespectful males…
They aren’t?
People also want to know where Tip keeps Alice, if you remember back when he was tied up in briefs during their Canadian adventure.
But clearly there’s somehing more funky than ‘shoom-vwrrrr’ for Mad Science Gun to say!
‘Ommminous hummmmm’ comes to mind.
But look how funkadelic the vwrrrr font is! I’m sure she programmed that to her exacting specs.
Tip is always absurdly and counterstereotypically badass. If ever he failed to be badass, the comic will be sued for trannyphobia (or transphobia, whatever they are now calling it)
So I say he will shoot Dr Jones gun out of her hand, then shoot her in the shoulder. Then have sex with her, James Bond style.
Ok, see:
1) Tip has failed to be badass in the past.
2) Being defeated by Jones probably wouldn’t count as not being badass. It’s the attitude, not the results.
3) The idea that a comic would be sued just because a character didn’t win a duel is really, really silly. (Not that it would stop some people from trying, though.)
Yeah, if you could go ahead and not throw slurs around, especially with the cute ‘whatever they are now calling it’ bit that just proves you know what you said ain’t it. That’d be great.
I genuinely don’tg know what they are now calling it, and I bet if you took a survey, 99% of the population would not know either. You guys keep changing the language so fast.
“Transphobia”, from “transgender” + “phobia”. “Tranny” is a highly derogatory term for transgendered people derived from its usage in porn movies (which a small percentage of trans people perform in to help pay for their surgeries, hormone treatments, etc., all of which are VERY expensive and only recently eligible for coverage by insurance companies who felt that the treatments were ‘experimental’, not necessary, etc.).
I know because I have a good friend who just happens to be F2M transgendered, but even before he realized that he had been born the wrong gender and started the transition process, the term “tranny” made me cringe because of its derogatory usage in porn. (And can you blame trans folk? Who would want to be treated exclusively as a fetish object, anyway?)
Yes, Tigerlily, but his gun has a name.
Now I’m trying to theorize “white rabbit ” filk lyrics. The whole “ask Alice” bit.
I was thinking of the different White Rabbit.
Her mojo’s…big blaster…
Has powered up to show them all.
He paces…with Alice…to turn and fire down the hall.
Or an “Alice’s Restaurant” filk
“You can get anything you want, with a snub-nose .38…”
This is Tigerlily Jones we’re talking about. Her gun probably has a name, too. Probably something like Blackvelvet Funkmistress Gemini.
There are pistols with the profile of popguns like .25’s but chambered for .45 ACP or 9mm rounds. The smaller size means less accuracy at range (which is largely a function of barrel length and mass), but if you have the skill to hit a target they’ll be just as dead as if you shot ’em with a 1911A.
Alice – Snub nose revolver, traditionally .38 special, but also available in .357 Magnum, .357 P+ magnum, and .44 Special
Don’t forget the older and less potent but classic .38 S&W.
Alice is a .38 Colt Commando.
Colt Commando Revolver, WWII issue.
.38 Special, mostly with a two inch barrel, with less than 10% manufactured with a 4 inch barrel and many of those shortened to 2 inch afterwards. More than 45,000 produced.
Detailed discussion at:
http://gunandswordcollector.com/Templates/articles/7_WW2_colt.html
From that article:
“In August 1942, a request for the procurement of 20,000 of Colt’s Official Police revolver [for the DSC] brought a price of $28, considered high by the District. Colt’s insistence that this was the lowest price at which their regular commercial gun could be sold to the government led to a request to design a gun as near like the Official Police as possible which Colt’s could make for $25 or less. Thus the “Commando” was born. It differed from the Official Police only in having a matted blued finish rather than the polished blued, and eliminated checkering on the cylinder latch and trigger, and the matting on top of the frame. It had plastic stocks. No polished surfaces were visible to reflect light.”
Alice may have aftermarket grips (stocks).
Robert, just because you asked so nicely …
(TUNE: “White Rabbit”, Jefferson Airplane)
One gun’s so much larger,
And one is rather small …
We’re preparing for a duel, now,
In a crowded shopping mall!
I’ve got Alice …
Don’t need more at all!
I’m confronting Tigerlily,
And she wants her mojo back …
So she’s arming for the battle,
‘Cause she’s done with talking smack!
I’ve got Alice …
Alice has my back!
Into Hammerspace she reaches …
Man, that’s one Big Freakin’ Gun!
But I have my favorite weapon
That is second-best to none …
I’ve got Alice!
She is Number One!
Now the words are getting heated,
And the battles getting hot!
I recall the words of Yoda,
Who said, “Size, it matters not!”
And when dueling,
One thing I was taught …
Don’t get shot!
Don’t get shot!
I heard the whole thing in Grace Slick’s voice. Goosebumps of flawless victory happened on the last few lines.
Exceptionally well done in a long list of well done filks. I, as always, am in awe of your talents sir. I echo JPs comment. :v
Eddurd – That is FAR FAR better than what I was trying to come up with driving in at 4 in the morning. I posted after I parked so I didn’t lose the thought (as happens WAY too often…
The moment Tigerlily gets her Mojo, gone will be Tip’s clothes … and Alice. And Tigerlily’s just gonna wonder what Wilkin is thinking.
Mojo a Mojo, then.
I think if Tip ends up naked, it’ll be very obvious what he’s thinking…
Tip may actually have the advantage since Tiger Lilly’s gun is so big it would be much less maneuverable and the extra power would be unnecessary agains flesh. Dead is dead while spinning a hunk of metal that big would be slow. That said they’re both mad so physics doesn’t apply to them in the usual way.
They seem to like extreme flirting.
Now Tip’s supposed to be mad too? It seems a character can’t have any quirk in this comic without someone calling “mad!”.
If he’s mad, is his specialty sexing people up and wearing fabulous outfits?
Actually I’m fairly sure he’s meant to be a mad psychologist based on the archives, including the Narbonic comic. While the comics are very comical (pun intended) there are some trends that keep the world coherent, like mad scientists are capable of things impossible for sane people. A good example for comparing genius and madness that comes to mind is the “My brother sam is dead” story arc, with Artie and Dr. Lee. Narbonic also constantly hinted Dave was a mad scientist in the making throughout, even in the first comic.
Also what do you have against being “mad”?
Yes, Narbonic hinted at Dave being Mad by having him build Mad Science devices. What has Tip done that you consider comparable to that?
I thought they knew each other well enough to be on a first-name basis…
http://static.tumblr.com/m9c5cga/i9llrnby9/sammax.gif
Tigerlily looks extremely adorable in that last panel. She seems so happy.
“Noisy Cricket” anyone?
THERE’S the super-weapon.
So she thinks killing him will get her “mojo” back, even though he’s a psychologist and he’d could use his professional knowledge to help her with that provided she bribes him with a night in bed. But I guess it just makes as much sense as Imogene going down to her local library and researching changes in casually worn clothing from the fifties to modern times. But of course, that would make sense, and these people are mad scientists.
In reply to Robert Nowall, one does not duel informally, nor should a proper villain utter threats on a first name basis.
For example, “I have you now, Professor Jones” is much more proper than “Gotcha, Indy.”
My real concern is that a two-handed weapon is not normally considered a pistol, for dueling purposes. While Rule 10 of the Code Duello might argue that as the “offended lady,” Dr. Jones has more leeway in choosing her weaponry after Tip has chosen a pistol, the spirit of the rules are that the weapons be at least comparable. In addition, the use of a second hand and grip would violate Rule 19, by providing an aiming rest, which has been prohibited for centuries now. There’s a reason why the Musketeers fought with swords…fighting a duel with two arquebuses on stands was just ridiculous to watch…but I digress.
Since both have apparently waived their right to a second, they should be discussing this in the next panel, to maintain the propriety of the duel, since they also need to establish firing distance and any rules involving collateral damage.
Or, they could just skip the preliminaries and get undressed…
She has no intention whatsoever of killing him. She needs his help. Also, notice she said “*First* we’re gonna duel…”
Okay, I’m calling it now. The next several strips will be the two of them jumping around, imitating movie badasses as much as possible while sniping at each other, and ending with a draw: Alice out of ammo, Tigerlily’s rifle(?) out of power, both of them facing each other panting.
And the entire shopping mall little more than rubble around them from the fallout.
Jeff does that once in a while, but I’m thinking one of the other of the Skin-horse gang will wander over and prevent the firefight.
Okay, I’ll be the first to admitt I’m no gun expert. That being said, HOW IN THE SEVEN HELLS IS THAT A PISTOL?!?
It doesn’t have a shoulder stock. In the U.S., that makes it legally a pistol. The U.S. has some weird gun laws.
Depends on what that gun fires. A pistol must fire a projectile.
Oh, and it has to be designed to be held in one hand. Which means that’s not a pistol, since it is clearly designed for two hands.
Obligatory musical interlude here: