Absolutely. Do you teach children times tables? Do you teach about four figure tables? Do you teach the controversy? Whatever you do, you’re also teaching about what you believe is worth knowing. You could call it terrible, but there isn’t an alternative.
In any case, I’m sure Artie’s done far more to undermine America (or the America Mr. Green values) outside the classroom.
So you have a fake source saying that college students were asked misleading poll questions and gave real answers anyway. And that fake poll would have said exactly the same thing whichever way the results went, which is the point of misleading polls.
So it seems you have proven that college students are smarter than you; I suspect this is not a shocking revelation.
Well, there you go! Arson and looting are Zero’s idea of smart! 😛
And note that he did not see the logical contradiction between claiming a source was fake and then complaining about the circumstances of the story that he claimed was fake. ^O^
When I’ve got 18 year old employees at McRonald’s who can’t figure out how much change to give the customer – and don’t even have the sense to punch the numbers into the computer because the amount of money handed to them caused their brain to seize up – they’re definitely not teaching kids how to do math well enough.
Ah, those moments when antagonists go from “they might be salvageable, given enough time and effort” straight to “time to grab a number and stand in line to strangle them with my bare hands”.
Dang, roborat team is really overselling how stupid they are. Why do they agree that the donut thing is worth remembering, and how is being a public school teacher undermining america?
I’m honestly more disturbed that the rat colony, and Valiant in particular, seem to be suffering the symptoms of “The Cure,” meaning reality/weirdness blindness.
No, everyone is reality blind to a greater or lesser extent. Apparently the rats have so much confidence in the security of their colony that they, or at least Valiant, can’t conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated.
I really like this theory. Skin Horse often has characters acting in a hardheaded/stupid manner but this is an extreme that seems born of reality blindness, and since the rats live in the sewers, all the cure residue that’s been washed down the storm drains might be affecting their brains. Anasigma’s just been spreading it willy-nilly with the atomizer, right? I doubt they considered environmental effects… and if it’s affecting NHS’s and making them unable to resist… all the better.
Hey, good analysis! That would explain the rat colony’s behavior.
As for Valiant not being able to conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated…plausible, but very disappointing in an IT professional. If anyone should be a professional paranoiac, it should be IT folks.
There are…people. We’ll avoid naming names of political groups, but there are people who think that public schools are evil, that they exist purely to indoctrinate children in evil Anti-America propaganda with the goal of destroying America because reasons. These imaginary “Evil Indoctrination Public Schools” don’t have to make sense because the aforementioned people have rather cartoonish views of the world at large.
And then there are people who refuse to believe that there are public schools – not all public schools, mind you – that are indeed indoctrinating our kids with anti-American propaganda. Maybe those people refuse to believe that because they themselves have been indoctrinated by one of those very schools. People can’t see the truth because they’ve been taught their whole lives that it doesn’t exist.
Been suspicious of the modern era schools (i. e. everything that came after I was there), ever since I happened to mention Paul Revere to my niece and nephew and got a blank look. Didn’t know who Paul Revere was. Didn’t even know the poem I parodied yesterday.
I recommend Googling the report on the Sovereign Citizens Movement by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The unfounded belief that someone can remove themselves from the standard legal system by avoiding public school and filing nonsense paperwork stretches across political groups, but probably has more traction in some than others.
Teachers get less time off than any other profession I’m aware of. They just don’t get paid for it. I doubled my salary moving from being a special education teacher to working in hospital finance and now I only work 8 hours a day and get weekends off.
I’m guessing that Echo Bravo was that kid in the back of the class that spent more time looking out the window and ducking the teacher’s questions than studying.
Regional Language note: In the UK, Public and Independent and Private schools all refer to schools that charge students a fee to separate them from the general public. There are several types of State-Sponsored schools are ones open to the general public.
By “public school” here, Artie is saying he works for a fee-less state-sponsored junior school.
When education is your enemy, you may be on the wrong side.
That presumes the education is actually more than mere indoctrination. 😛
It’s always more than mere indoctrination, as rote learning trains the memory. The indoctrination is there, though.
Ah yes the indoctrination that teaches kids to do math and learn about science. Terrible, just terrible.
Absolutely. Do you teach children times tables? Do you teach about four figure tables? Do you teach the controversy? Whatever you do, you’re also teaching about what you believe is worth knowing. You could call it terrible, but there isn’t an alternative.
In any case, I’m sure Artie’s done far more to undermine America (or the America Mr. Green values) outside the classroom.
Yeah, lots of math and science being shown in 65% of college students in this story, right? 😛
Let’s see if the link goes through this time.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/410351/
So you have a fake source saying that college students were asked misleading poll questions and gave real answers anyway. And that fake poll would have said exactly the same thing whichever way the results went, which is the point of misleading polls.
So it seems you have proven that college students are smarter than you; I suspect this is not a shocking revelation.
Well, there you go! Arson and looting are Zero’s idea of smart! 😛
And note that he did not see the logical contradiction between claiming a source was fake and then complaining about the circumstances of the story that he claimed was fake. ^O^
…There is no contradiction there. A lie can both be untrue and incoherent. Like your claims.
I’unno, man. I still can’t do math worth shit, but I can recite the pledge of allegiance by heart.
When I’ve got 18 year old employees at McRonald’s who can’t figure out how much change to give the customer – and don’t even have the sense to punch the numbers into the computer because the amount of money handed to them caused their brain to seize up – they’re definitely not teaching kids how to do math well enough.
Ah, those moments when antagonists go from “they might be salvageable, given enough time and effort” straight to “time to grab a number and stand in line to strangle them with my bare hands”.
I’ll have you know that educators do a lot of HARD WORK in our efforts to undermine America.
and a few other countries as well!
Dang, roborat team is really overselling how stupid they are. Why do they agree that the donut thing is worth remembering, and how is being a public school teacher undermining america?
I’m honestly more disturbed that the rat colony, and Valiant in particular, seem to be suffering the symptoms of “The Cure,” meaning reality/weirdness blindness.
No, everyone is reality blind to a greater or lesser extent. Apparently the rats have so much confidence in the security of their colony that they, or at least Valiant, can’t conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated.
I really like this theory. Skin Horse often has characters acting in a hardheaded/stupid manner but this is an extreme that seems born of reality blindness, and since the rats live in the sewers, all the cure residue that’s been washed down the storm drains might be affecting their brains. Anasigma’s just been spreading it willy-nilly with the atomizer, right? I doubt they considered environmental effects… and if it’s affecting NHS’s and making them unable to resist… all the better.
yikes, that’s what I get for not reading boxes before hitting post. If anyone wants to send me angry emails, uh, go ahead
Hey, good analysis! That would explain the rat colony’s behavior.
As for Valiant not being able to conceive of the possibility that they would be infiltrated…plausible, but very disappointing in an IT professional. If anyone should be a professional paranoiac, it should be IT folks.
There are…people. We’ll avoid naming names of political groups, but there are people who think that public schools are evil, that they exist purely to indoctrinate children in evil Anti-America propaganda with the goal of destroying America because reasons. These imaginary “Evil Indoctrination Public Schools” don’t have to make sense because the aforementioned people have rather cartoonish views of the world at large.
And then there are people who refuse to believe that there are public schools – not all public schools, mind you – that are indeed indoctrinating our kids with anti-American propaganda. Maybe those people refuse to believe that because they themselves have been indoctrinated by one of those very schools. People can’t see the truth because they’ve been taught their whole lives that it doesn’t exist.
How about: “there are schools – not all schools, mind you” with no leading signifier?
There are definitely a number of private schools with their own fair share of problems.
No dispute there.
Case in point.
Been suspicious of the modern era schools (i. e. everything that came after I was there), ever since I happened to mention Paul Revere to my niece and nephew and got a blank look. Didn’t know who Paul Revere was. Didn’t even know the poem I parodied yesterday.
People who are concerned about “anti-America” tend to be openly, unambiguously, and unabashedly anti-American.
I recommend Googling the report on the Sovereign Citizens Movement by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The unfounded belief that someone can remove themselves from the standard legal system by avoiding public school and filing nonsense paperwork stretches across political groups, but probably has more traction in some than others.
Their reasons for avoiding American public school, while wrong, are at least concrete.
“Horror Every Day” is back. Yay! Thanks, Shaenon. 🙂
I don’t know what that means but since I don’t remember seeing you here, welcome to the forums.
“Horror Every Day” is Shaenon’s 2018 mpvie-a-day compendium.
http://www.horrormovie.today/
They do get three months off in the summer.
No, students get three months off. The teachers are lucky if they get two weeks.
Teachers get less time off than any other profession I’m aware of. They just don’t get paid for it. I doubled my salary moving from being a special education teacher to working in hospital finance and now I only work 8 hours a day and get weekends off.
I can only assume you don’t work for a non-profit hospital.
Non-profit hospital? How many of those are left? (Yes, I know there are many that _claim_ to be non-profit.)
Where I’m at, the time you get off is due to 9-10 hour work days.
I’m guessing that Echo Bravo was that kid in the back of the class that spent more time looking out the window and ducking the teacher’s questions than studying.
Now you have me wondering how EB would do at Calvinball.
Well, he’s good at taking blows to the head, but no, I don’t think he’s anywhere near smart enough to play Calvinball.
Whereas young Calvin had an excess of imagination, Young Echo was, most likely, sadly lacking it.
Regional Language note: In the UK, Public and Independent and Private schools all refer to schools that charge students a fee to separate them from the general public. There are several types of State-Sponsored schools are ones open to the general public.
By “public school” here, Artie is saying he works for a fee-less state-sponsored junior school.
Er… I’m Californian, so my apologies if I phrased anything wrong 🙂