Not blonde, furrier, and bigger nose probably, based on my dad’s side and stereotypes. Our family lived in the same village in Russia/Poland/probably Germany at one point/currently Lithuania until 1850s, and my half siblings look exactly like my dad. My mom’s Italian so I don’t look as “Jewish” as them but I got the hair and nose.
My Mom’s family came from Galicia – now the southern part of Poland – just after 1900. Although there were a fair number of Jews in Galicia, my grandparents spoke only Polish (as opposed to Russian or Yiddish), so I’m pretty sure they weren’t part of the Jewish population. But considering that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth used to include what later would become Galicia, Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, and a few others, I imagine that the principal difference between Lithuanian Jews and Galician Protestants is only religious, not genetic. So I wouldn’t be at all surprised it your father’s family and my grandfather’s family have a lot of very similar features.
I ended up with a lot of English and French, but I still got the Polish nose, eyes and ears.
Try the guy Nick went on a date with in My House is Me, instead. Nick said he was a “nice Jewish boy”, and I think he looked about right for the modern perception.
Given that “Jewish” also means an ethnicity, there are some common physical features… unfortunately, talking about those features, the water has been completely poluted by antisemetic weirdo conspiracy theorists, and other flavours of nazis.
To be honest, despite being Jewish I’m not totally sure what those features are (I’m actually really bad at recognizing faces or describing features), other than dark hair as mentioned, but I distinctly remember when Friends was big my mom said it was hard to believe that Ross and Rachel were siblings when Ross looked so Jewish and Monica so Goyish (not Jewish).
Also big noses — stereotyped as comically big, in practice mostly just ordinary big.
And short of stature — Growing up on Long Island, I never felt short at 5’8″ until I went to college and encountered a rather different population. My sister and niece are both under 5′, and my father’s mother was much shorter than them…
But about that last, some of the “short” stereotype is from “then-recent” immigrants, who often suffered disease, starvation, or other privations in their childhoods. (Dr. Ruth Westheimer is a well-known example.) When I was young, a lot of famliles around me had tiny-short grandparents (stunted by early disease or malnutrition), “normal-sized” (or a bit short) parents, and teen-aged kids towering over the parents (that last was common and notable across America at the time). (Later I saw that pattern repeat with a number of Asian groups as the tides of immigration shifted.)
Note, however, that the usual American Jewish stereotypes are based on Ashkenazim, the Jews who went through Eastern Europe, and later immigrated to the USA in large numbers, especially but not exclusively when fleeing Hitler’s troops. The Sephardim (via Greece, Spain, Italy, etc), African, and never-left-the-Middle-East Jews surely have their own distinctive stereotypes, let alone Chinese Jews.
Quite true. (And the bigger nose was mentioned above as well) My grandmother was only 4’8″, and I think my grandfather was only about 5’5″. Of course, Americans in general were all a lot shorter 100-plus years ago. Take a look at the beds from the Civil War era… they were only about 5-1/2 feet long, because they didn’t need to be any longer.
The name Zerhakker implies that he’s of German or Dutch Jewish ancestry. We don’t tend to look as much like stereotypical Ashkenazi Jews as other Northern European Jewish groups. Basically, he’s pale, has straight blond hair, and not a stocky build.
Stereotypical Ashkenazi features would be a short and stocky build, olive skin, tightly curled or wavy dark or dark red hair, a round face, and a large nose with a prominent bump. A stereotypical German Jew would be more lightly built, with pale or ruddy skin, straight or loosely curled light colored hair, a square face, and large nose without a prominent bump.
Well, I mean. There’s no guarantee that Nick was in that exact physical condition.
And really, given how he seemed to live, I’m impressed he’s so skinny – but then again, eating nothing but junk food isn’t necessarily going to make you fat. Just… really vitamin deficient after a point.
I vaguely recall Nick’s early, pre-chopper appearances depicting him as a skinny kid. Even if he was already inside the chopper at that point, that was how he saw (or remembered) his body being like.
I’m guessing this cloned body has been aged up a bit.
This body hasn’t been living on junk food. It’s been grown in a vat with correct nutrition and probably some kind of mad-science exercise. I suspect he’s taller than he was, and definitely more muscular.
It’s also worth noting that Helen’s replicating gun turned its target into a copy of the chosen subject in its current condition. Which is why Madblood turned into Dave complete with nicotine and Mt. Dew addictions. So Mad science is theoretically perfectly capable of producing a pre-corrupted clone.
“The Science Genius Girls” would be a great “Odd Couple” type cartoon… maybe Saturday-only to give time for the repairs.
Always wondered who did Superhero Post-Battle Cleanup… “Well, what’s left of his ID says he’s “Billy Batson”, the police can take charge for all I care… wallet’s empty!”
No, she wouldn’t. His brain was covered at that point, and Unity doesn’t eat her friends. It was just that encountering Nick’s naked brain was a little overwhelming for her. Biscuit was always Unity’s nickname for Nick (for whatever reason.)
I just realized something. For some reason, this made me think back to the Whimsy arc, where Nick was pivotal in retrieving the film reel Collodi left for his daughter. And I don’t know why this didn’t occur to me earlier.
Careful what you ask for Nick, you just might get it. And watch what you say when you get to Tip. Don’t ask for advice, you’ll be in a fashionable three-piece suit with a different haircut before you can finish the sentence. Talking with Gavotte should be fine though (although she might comment that she had been expecting you two minutes earlier).
I actually kind of think Nick might haul off and clobber Tip, given their history of animosity and this being the first time Nick has access to a fist.
It was stolen from his chopper plane,
Nick Zerhakker’s disembodied brain.
It was worked on in the Clone-o-Mat,
Now it’s walking ‘round to chew the fat.
So now he’s introduced to you,
The guy you’ve known is standing here,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
It’s Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
His swears a streak of awesome blue.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
He’s looking for some Mountain Dew.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
He doesn’t look too Jewish,
He’s not some big fat pig,
Appearance is at variance,
He’s got a pair of rolled up pants,
He’s cuffs are neat and rolled.
You don’t really want to stop him now,
Even though he’s lost his unibrow.
He’s got something he can now complete,
That he couldn’t do when out of meat.
After going on a junk food spree,
He can get it on with Dr. Lee.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
—from “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,” The Beatles.
He’s Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
No dignity, but he’s got pants.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
Get ready for some epic rants.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
With Succotash and Neptune Polk.
Nick Zerhakker’s very lonely Only Parts Stub Man,
We’re getting very near the joke.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts—Stub—Man!
—from “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise),” The Beatles.
They might try to keep treating him exactly the same, but it’d be difficult– it’s presently not nearly so rewarding to hit him up for rides all the time.
How can one be more Jewish?
Not blonde, furrier, and bigger nose probably, based on my dad’s side and stereotypes. Our family lived in the same village in Russia/Poland/probably Germany at one point/currently Lithuania until 1850s, and my half siblings look exactly like my dad. My mom’s Italian so I don’t look as “Jewish” as them but I got the hair and nose.
Their mom was also Jewish from the same village over, met when my dad was visiting relatives. I’m the mutt
He would also probably have slightly darker skin.
My Mom’s family came from Galicia – now the southern part of Poland – just after 1900. Although there were a fair number of Jews in Galicia, my grandparents spoke only Polish (as opposed to Russian or Yiddish), so I’m pretty sure they weren’t part of the Jewish population. But considering that the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth used to include what later would become Galicia, Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, and a few others, I imagine that the principal difference between Lithuanian Jews and Galician Protestants is only religious, not genetic. So I wouldn’t be at all surprised it your father’s family and my grandfather’s family have a lot of very similar features.
I ended up with a lot of English and French, but I still got the Polish nose, eyes and ears.
I’d direct us all to certain works of art, but that gets into a real and genuine nasty area. Shame on you, Captain Fancy.
Try the guy Nick went on a date with in My House is Me, instead. Nick said he was a “nice Jewish boy”, and I think he looked about right for the modern perception.
Well, Sweetheart actually being pretty racist despite her efforts otherwise is pretty canon. Miscegenation is a sign of the end times anyone?
Given that “Jewish” also means an ethnicity, there are some common physical features… unfortunately, talking about those features, the water has been completely poluted by antisemetic weirdo conspiracy theorists, and other flavours of nazis.
To be honest, despite being Jewish I’m not totally sure what those features are (I’m actually really bad at recognizing faces or describing features), other than dark hair as mentioned, but I distinctly remember when Friends was big my mom said it was hard to believe that Ross and Rachel were siblings when Ross looked so Jewish and Monica so Goyish (not Jewish).
Also big noses — stereotyped as comically big, in practice mostly just ordinary big.
And short of stature — Growing up on Long Island, I never felt short at 5’8″ until I went to college and encountered a rather different population. My sister and niece are both under 5′, and my father’s mother was much shorter than them…
But about that last, some of the “short” stereotype is from “then-recent” immigrants, who often suffered disease, starvation, or other privations in their childhoods. (Dr. Ruth Westheimer is a well-known example.) When I was young, a lot of famliles around me had tiny-short grandparents (stunted by early disease or malnutrition), “normal-sized” (or a bit short) parents, and teen-aged kids towering over the parents (that last was common and notable across America at the time). (Later I saw that pattern repeat with a number of Asian groups as the tides of immigration shifted.)
Note, however, that the usual American Jewish stereotypes are based on Ashkenazim, the Jews who went through Eastern Europe, and later immigrated to the USA in large numbers, especially but not exclusively when fleeing Hitler’s troops. The Sephardim (via Greece, Spain, Italy, etc), African, and never-left-the-Middle-East Jews surely have their own distinctive stereotypes, let alone Chinese Jews.
Quite true. (And the bigger nose was mentioned above as well) My grandmother was only 4’8″, and I think my grandfather was only about 5’5″. Of course, Americans in general were all a lot shorter 100-plus years ago. Take a look at the beds from the Civil War era… they were only about 5-1/2 feet long, because they didn’t need to be any longer.
The name Zerhakker implies that he’s of German or Dutch Jewish ancestry. We don’t tend to look as much like stereotypical Ashkenazi Jews as other Northern European Jewish groups. Basically, he’s pale, has straight blond hair, and not a stocky build.
Stereotypical Ashkenazi features would be a short and stocky build, olive skin, tightly curled or wavy dark or dark red hair, a round face, and a large nose with a prominent bump. A stereotypical German Jew would be more lightly built, with pale or ruddy skin, straight or loosely curled light colored hair, a square face, and large nose without a prominent bump.
Well, I mean. There’s no guarantee that Nick was in that exact physical condition.
And really, given how he seemed to live, I’m impressed he’s so skinny – but then again, eating nothing but junk food isn’t necessarily going to make you fat. Just… really vitamin deficient after a point.
I vaguely recall Nick’s early, pre-chopper appearances depicting him as a skinny kid. Even if he was already inside the chopper at that point, that was how he saw (or remembered) his body being like.
I’m guessing this cloned body has been aged up a bit.
And when he was in the VR with Lovelace and Aimee, he looked the same. So it was also how he saw himself.
Good point, DNA doesn’t know how well you’ve been eating and exercising.
shikomekidomi: Actually, it turns out sometimes it does. And/or, how well your parents (or prior generations) were eating and exercising, etc.
“Epigenetic marks” are another layer of information, where genetic DNA can pick up “annotations”, which sometimes get passed on, sometimes not.
He isn’t yet wearing his kippah.
Smoked? o_O
Very good!
:mittens: for that reference.
This body hasn’t been living on junk food. It’s been grown in a vat with correct nutrition and probably some kind of mad-science exercise. I suspect he’s taller than he was, and definitely more muscular.
It’s worth keeping in mind, though, that the mecha-clone-o-mat *was* built from a Coke machine.
It’s also worth noting that Helen’s replicating gun turned its target into a copy of the chosen subject in its current condition. Which is why Madblood turned into Dave complete with nicotine and Mt. Dew addictions. So Mad science is theoretically perfectly capable of producing a pre-corrupted clone.
And yes, I know Dave never smoked.
On the other hand, when Helen cloned Dave a new body, she had to personally go over it to make it feel lived-in instead of brand spanking new.
Wasn’t that before the replicating gun? Maybe Helen added that feature as a time-saver.
Both good points. Of course, I was merely making the point that it is possible to make a copy that is imperfect by design.
“The Science Genius Girls” would be a great “Odd Couple” type cartoon… maybe Saturday-only to give time for the repairs.
Always wondered who did Superhero Post-Battle Cleanup… “Well, what’s left of his ID says he’s “Billy Batson”, the police can take charge for all I care… wallet’s empty!”
I figured once Unity realized it was Nick, she’d run up to him, give him a big hug, and shout “Biscuit!”
Agreed, but I’d find Unity grabbing me and crying “Biscuit!” – disconcerting.
That doesn’t necessarily stop Unity from doing things.
…and then start eating him. 😛
I’m quite happy with this reaction instead, thank you! ^_^
No, she wouldn’t. His brain was covered at that point, and Unity doesn’t eat her friends. It was just that encountering Nick’s naked brain was a little overwhelming for her. Biscuit was always Unity’s nickname for Nick (for whatever reason.)
…
I just realized something. For some reason, this made me think back to the Whimsy arc, where Nick was pivotal in retrieving the film reel Collodi left for his daughter. And I don’t know why this didn’t occur to me earlier.
…
Nick is a Jewish Princess.
[singing] “I need a hairy little Jewish Princess / With a brand-new nose, who knows where it goes…”
“…with your short fat hairy legs on Moonlight Bay…”
Careful what you ask for Nick, you just might get it. And watch what you say when you get to Tip. Don’t ask for advice, you’ll be in a fashionable three-piece suit with a different haircut before you can finish the sentence. Talking with Gavotte should be fine though (although she might comment that she had been expecting you two minutes earlier).
I actually kind of think Nick might haul off and clobber Tip, given their history of animosity and this being the first time Nick has access to a fist.
Or Nick might kick him in the marbles.
And oddly, someone was being quite transparent a few strips later
It was stolen from his chopper plane,
Nick Zerhakker’s disembodied brain.
It was worked on in the Clone-o-Mat,
Now it’s walking ‘round to chew the fat.
So now he’s introduced to you,
The guy you’ve known is standing here,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
It’s Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
His swears a streak of awesome blue.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
He’s looking for some Mountain Dew.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
He doesn’t look too Jewish,
He’s not some big fat pig,
Appearance is at variance,
He’s got a pair of rolled up pants,
He’s cuffs are neat and rolled.
You don’t really want to stop him now,
Even though he’s lost his unibrow.
He’s got something he can now complete,
That he couldn’t do when out of meat.
After going on a junk food spree,
He can get it on with Dr. Lee.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man.
—from “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,” The Beatles.
[slow clap]
[Slightly faster clap]
Very nice! I was hoping you’d work in Tiger Lily’s name for him, but we can’t have everything (where would we put it?)
He’s Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
No dignity, but he’s got pants.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
Get ready for some epic rants.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts Stub Man,
With Succotash and Neptune Polk.
Nick Zerhakker’s very lonely Only Parts Stub Man,
We’re getting very near the joke.
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only,
Nick Zerhakker’s Only Parts—Stub—Man!
—from “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise),” The Beatles.
Awesome.
Sorry, I just can’t get into this one. But then I have never been a Beatles fan.
Excellent!
They might try to keep treating him exactly the same, but it’d be difficult– it’s presently not nearly so rewarding to hit him up for rides all the time.
That’s not what Dr. Lee says.
Thanks. She’s ALWAYS been so complimentary.
So the question now is, will Nick be a member of Dr. Lee’s band?
We already know he wants to hold her hand.