Especially since actual chivalry was entirely about battlefield conduct, diplomatic etiquette, and the duties and responsibilities of vassal / lord relationships.
Real chivalry wasn’t concerned with women, so much as horses, swords, and diplomacy. The whole “romance and courtly love” notion of chivalry is just something the ignorant Victorians made up centuries after the fact. It’s total bunk.
Turns out the Victorians did that sort of thing a lot. For example, in reality harems had nothing to do with sex, they were just the living quarters of the royal family – but because Victorian western men writing about ‘the exotic and mysterious Orient’ weren’t actually allowed into such private places, they imagined it must be because harems were actually kinky sex dungeons full of nubile slaves and orgies.
…uhh… Le Morte d’Arthur and Roman de la Rose aren’t books on chivalry, though?
The former is a compilation and retelling of well known Arthurian tales at the time, in prose. The latter is allegorical romantic poetry. Both have elements concerned with contemporary notions of “courtly love”, but neither one has anything to do with chivalry.
True, but I don’t blame Victorians for chaining chivalry -> How To Be An Ideal Knight -> Courtly Love Ideal Knight. The concepts of chivalry and the ideal courtier got pretty well entangled well before the terminology did.
But the concept of the “perfect gentle knight”, who both embodies courtly love and can kick ass on the battlefield is certainly present in Malory. Sure; the word chivalry derives from the word for horse, but quite early the concepts became entwined. (Think also of Edward III’s 13th Century knightly Order of the Garter.) Consider also the Roman equites, who started out being cavalry (from, again, the word for horse) but ended up being a social/economic class. Sure, the Victorians romanticized the whole concept, but it was there long before them.
It’s important to be honest about what you want. I think Baron’s right, we could all do with the sight of Aimee, Lovelace, and Nick (especially Nick) in cheerleader outfits, encouraging us to log out and go outside.
Kyle: It’s too late for that; Nick’s already gone. In any case, Lovelace would probably rather encourage Baron with the jackhammer bazooka than wear that.
He’ll is hanging back and waiting to offer aid (for a small fee, if course) to the survivors. They know better than to get in the middle of an apocalyptic event that they aren’t causing
(TUNE: “On, Wisconsin!”, William T. Purdy & Carl Beck)
Baron Misty, Baron Misty,
You can leave V.R.!
If you wanna, you’ll be gone-a!
Here, it’s too bizarre!
(So let’s go …)
Near to far, from here to bar,
Let’s drink some Jagerbombs!
Ladies, change your outfits and
Shake your … pom- … poms!
Imprisoned himself in the forest. Can’t find his way to the door-his. Encouragement lacking, he asks for a smacking, with cheerleader uniform score-is.
Now you’ve got me remembering someone I dated when I was in my late 20s, decades ago. She told me she had been a cheerleader in college. Sadly, I never thought to ask if she still had her outfit and could model it for me.
Cheerleader uniforms might encourage him to leave his prison, but it would also encourage him to stay in the VR forever.
I wonder if Tip has a matching hand-puppet uniform that can be altered to fit Baron…
Though the *why* of that could be something of a noodle incident.
Baron mostly reminds me of the unicorns in Ursula Vernon’s “Black Dogs” books.
Eh, chivalrous men can like cute girls too!
Maybe it’s just me, but I think chivalrous men appreciate cute girls as they are, instead of asking for cheerleader uniforms.
No, they’ll ask for pastries and a kiss instead. As your mother it should be, he, Percival?
three words are missing:
-a ring
-said
But it’s funny that way too. Choose your version…
“chivalrous men appreciate cute girls as they are”
*smiles an evil smile before donning an innocent expression*
Meaning that chivalrous men can only appreciate such girls when they are nude? 🙂
In the Baron’s case, cheerleader costumes are the chivalrous choice, as I’m sure he could think of plenty of things far more kinky and revealing.
Especially since actual chivalry was entirely about battlefield conduct, diplomatic etiquette, and the duties and responsibilities of vassal / lord relationships.
Real chivalry wasn’t concerned with women, so much as horses, swords, and diplomacy. The whole “romance and courtly love” notion of chivalry is just something the ignorant Victorians made up centuries after the fact. It’s total bunk.
Turns out the Victorians did that sort of thing a lot. For example, in reality harems had nothing to do with sex, they were just the living quarters of the royal family – but because Victorian western men writing about ‘the exotic and mysterious Orient’ weren’t actually allowed into such private places, they imagined it must be because harems were actually kinky sex dungeons full of nubile slaves and orgies.
Really? Huh. No reason, then, to continue my development of Time Travel.
There’s several reasons not to develop time travel and _that’s_ your sticking point?
Morte D’Arthur is 15th Century; The Romance of the Rose is 13th Century. It’s pretty hard to implicate the (19th Century) Victorians with either one.
…uhh… Le Morte d’Arthur and Roman de la Rose aren’t books on chivalry, though?
The former is a compilation and retelling of well known Arthurian tales at the time, in prose. The latter is allegorical romantic poetry. Both have elements concerned with contemporary notions of “courtly love”, but neither one has anything to do with chivalry.
True, but I don’t blame Victorians for chaining chivalry -> How To Be An Ideal Knight -> Courtly Love Ideal Knight. The concepts of chivalry and the ideal courtier got pretty well entangled well before the terminology did.
But the concept of the “perfect gentle knight”, who both embodies courtly love and can kick ass on the battlefield is certainly present in Malory. Sure; the word chivalry derives from the word for horse, but quite early the concepts became entwined. (Think also of Edward III’s 13th Century knightly Order of the Garter.) Consider also the Roman equites, who started out being cavalry (from, again, the word for horse) but ended up being a social/economic class. Sure, the Victorians romanticized the whole concept, but it was there long before them.
The Courts of Love were already a thing in the 1100s. 🙂
Mostly horses. From cheval, the French word for horse.
Baron may look like a unicorn but at times (many,many times) he acts like a jackazz! LOL! 😀
How many Barons does it take to change a light bulb? Only one, but—well, you know the rest.
Two, but they have to be small enough to both fit in the lightbulb.
Try the Vegas showgirl outfits again.
It’s important to be honest about what you want. I think Baron’s right, we could all do with the sight of Aimee, Lovelace, and Nick (especially Nick) in cheerleader outfits, encouraging us to log out and go outside.
Kyle: It’s too late for that; Nick’s already gone. In any case, Lovelace would probably rather encourage Baron with the jackhammer bazooka than wear that.
Think Nick is busy right now going somewhere and bringing hell with him…
He’ll is hanging back and waiting to offer aid (for a small fee, if course) to the survivors. They know better than to get in the middle of an apocalyptic event that they aren’t causing
Hell, not he’ll. (Grumble) stupid autocorrect.
(TUNE: “On, Wisconsin!”, William T. Purdy & Carl Beck)
Baron Misty, Baron Misty,
You can leave V.R.!
If you wanna, you’ll be gone-a!
Here, it’s too bizarre!
(So let’s go …)
Near to far, from here to bar,
Let’s drink some Jagerbombs!
Ladies, change your outfits and
Shake your … pom- … poms!
But Unity (remember her?) NEEDS a time machine! There are leg sweeps to do!
Imprisoned himself in the forest. Can’t find his way to the door-his. Encouragement lacking, he asks for a smacking, with cheerleader uniform score-is.
Now you’ve got me remembering someone I dated when I was in my late 20s, decades ago. She told me she had been a cheerleader in college. Sadly, I never thought to ask if she still had her outfit and could model it for me.
I’m really liking Lovelace’s exasperation in this one. “Lilac hellforest” is also a good line.
He’s chivalrous, not dead!